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  • Student Name: CRMJ/SOCA 233 - Criminology, CRMJ/SOCA 363 Corrections, CRMJ/SOCA 365 Race, Crime, Law

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    On Sunday, October 20, 2002, Jenny Kruesel wrote:
    About Friday

    Thanks for the workday on Friday. I really needed that time to work on the creative measures. It was very helpful.

    jenny -- you're very welcome!

    On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, April Puryear wrote:
    On site visits

    My visit to the Racine County Jail was a good experience. It was interesting to see the similarities and differences from my RYOC visit. RYOC and the RCJ both had security measures that everyone had to go through. RYOC offenders seemed to have more freedom and rehabilitation seemed to be more of their focus. RCJ inmates seemed to just be warehoused in the jails. Overcrowding and understaffing was big a problem at RCJ.

    april --these are some good comparisons. be sure to do a debriefing for each site visit.

    On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, Julia Starr wrote:
    On the Racine County Jail site visit

    hi susan. the visit today was great. that was my first "inside" experience and i feel that i gained a lot from it. they did seem like caged animals didnt they, on display for all of us to see. i could see that some of them liked it while others really didnt appreciate our stares. im looking forward to thursday.

    julia -- i'm glad that you enjoyed this morning's site visit to the Racine County Jail. Be sure to do a debriefing. It might be interesting to compare this jail site visit with Thursday's site visit to KCDC.

    On Thursday, October 24, 2002, Tim Mostowik wrote:
    On the KCDC site visit

    i thought that the site visit to kcdc was really cool and interesting. one of my favorite parts was being able to go into the segregation area to see what that was like. it was definitely one of my favorite site visits.

    im -- i'm glad. i thought it was also a very good site visit, too. be sure to do a debriefing.

    From CRMJ/SOCA 233: Criminology

    On Monday, October 21, 2002, Michelle Sims wrote:
    On subcultural strain theory

    Another reaction I had was about the subcutural strain theory. I disagree with the idea that the "lower class tries to meet up to the middle class measuring rod". I think that the lower class is just trying to be accepted in society. Also they are just trying to survive.

    michelle -- but doesn't wanting to be accepted mean that the person wants the middle class values, ways, lifestyle, etc.? why.

    On Tuesday, October 22, 2002, Nick Contreras wrote:
    On subcultural strain theory

    I was reading what michelle sims wrote about the subcultural strain theory, and your comments, and i want to say that i agree, with the fact that lower class ppl strive to be accepted, but as individuals. I don't think they necessarily want middle classe's lifestyle, ways, etc, but.. hm... I just don't think anyone wants to be labeled as lower class, so everyone who is under that label is trying to work themselves up, and if that means trying to get what everyone else has, than so be it, but if it means trying to provide more for your family, then it has nothing to do with what middle class has, because they'd do it regardless.

    nick -- if someone is trying to "work themselves up," doesn't that translate into the middle class measuring rod? why or why not?

    On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, Jessie Du Bois wrote:
    Subcultural Strain Theory

    When we were dicussing the questions in our small group, our group liked my idea the best for #4. So I gave my thoughts to the class. I said that I thought the Cloward and Ohlin idea was most correct. I thought the idea that delinquency is a result of the opportunities that you are given is the best explanation. This is true in every aspect of life. Children who have opportunities to go to school and to be envolved in activities are more likely to use those things to do good things in life. Where some children are given more opportunies to do "bad" things also are more likely to do them.

    jessie -- good point!

    On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, Heidi Schneider wrote:
    Subcultural Strain Theory

    As far as the oppertunities and deviantion theroy is used to describe gands, I disagree becuase I feel that there is always a double reason for violent and deviant actions,what it boils down to is free will and even if there aren't the means to create a perfect community there is still free will to say yes or no to invovlment in gangs and crime

    heidi -- an interesting point! but how would the positivist explain the cause of crime? why.

    On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, Roberta Prescott wrote:
    On the Biological and Psychological Approaches

    In the past class lectures we talked about the Biological and Psychological approaches on crime. In my psychology class we are doing group presentations and my chapter is dealing with behaviorism. The section talks about how your behavior defines your characteristics in life.I was just thinking how in this class we talked about people's behavior and how a biological plays a role. In my opinion these two class subjects tie together also they have differences.

    roberta -- goes to show you how interdisciplinary criminology is. what are some similarities and differences? why.

    On Friday, October 25, 2002, Jeff Galley wrote:
    On holding parents accountable

    this morning in crmj 233 after watching the video you asked the class if it was a good idea that the parents be responsible for the criminal actions of their children. I belive this, discipline begins in the home of the child. It is the parent's responsibility to teach their youth right from wrong and use discipline when their children have disobeyed them. Any child who commits a crime 16 and younger, their parents structure of discipline should be evaluated. If it shows that the parents have used negligence in the upbringing of their child or children, they deserve to be punished along with the child. It is my belief the inability to be a responsible parent leads to the conclusion of their child becoming irresponsible and will continue to commit crimes.

    jeff -- you raise many interesting points. but then how do we seek a balance between private autonomy vs. public autonomy? is there a fine line between punishing/disciplining a child and child abuse?

    From CRMJ/SOCA 363: Corrections

    Nikki Rosa wrote on Monday, October 21, 2002:
    On Comparing "Hard Time" to "Prison Gangs and Racism"

    Hard Time and the Prison Gangs and Racism documentary both convey the same messege which is basically inmates in prison become something they are not to survive.....even those who wouldnt be in gangs on the streets and have never had any gang affiliaction come to prison and join a gang to survive........many inmates join a gang for survival which is the same reason many inmates cannot be themselves and show compassion ....because basic caring functions are looked at as weaknesses in prison.....either u become somehting u are not and only show ur hard exterior or u become a sitting victim.....when someone joins a gang in prison they may have to commit crimes or rape others just to be accpeted by their fellow gang members so even within the gangs you have to be someone you are not....

    nikki - good comparisons!

    Tony Ciardo wrote on Monday, October 21, 2002:
    Does rehabilitation work?

    today in our group we discussed that rehab. does work if the wrongdoer is serious or not about the system of rehabilitation. If the wrongdoer doesn't want the help then corrections is wasting money and time on the inmate. But, sometimes the system doesn't want to help, then the inmate has to function themselves with other inmates.

    tony -- a good summary. what is your own opinion on this issue? why.

    Angie Siemers wrote on Wednesday, October 23, 2002:
    Does rehabilitation work?

    (off of yours and tony ciardos discussion on commentary page) I do think that rehabilitation should be offered to all inmates. I think that it is successful only if the inmate wants it. you cant force a person to change outside of prison, why would we think we can inside of prison. spending money on an inmate who has been to prison before is a waste of time and money. that inmate already got his/her chance to be rehabilitated now they can wait while the other inmates get the attention for rehab.

    angie -- but in class, i had raised the question, would if the inmate wants to be rehabilitated but the prison administration and staff are uncooperative? then what?

    Julia Starr wrote on Wednesday, October 23, 2002:
    On the documentary, "The Second City"

    just wanted to tell you that i really liked the video in class today. the more insight i get on what happens on the inside, the more interested i get about what i am getting myself into. thanks.

    julia -- you're very welcome. now compare the readings, the documentaries, and site visits and discuss correctional theory, policy and practice.

    Michelle Sims wrote on Wednesday, October 23, 2002:
    On the documentary, "The Second City"

    In class today, when we watched the movie, I was shocked to see the guy at the end that was talking about how he was going to get rich. He played in this movie called "Boyz In The Hood". Monique and I could not beleive he was in jail.

    michelle -- you can view the rest of the documentary at your leisure (it's in our library on reserve). why was that unbelievable to you and monique?

    On xxxday, September xx, 2002, xxx wrote:



    From CRMJ/SOCA 365: Race, Crime and Law

    On Monday, October 21, 2002, Shawna Lehmann wrote:
    On the documentary, "The Spirit of Crazy Horse"

    I really enjoyed the film that was shown in class today about the Indians. they suffered alot during the wars and now are planted in reservations to preserve their culture. HOwever, why are we still seperating them from society?

    shawna -- glad you liked today's documentary. i think too often when we think of "race, crime, law", we think of it as a "black-white" issue, but there are other racial and ethnic groups to consider. you raise an interesting question as to "why we are still separating them from society?" want to research this question?

    On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, Rick Hribar wrote:
    On the documentary, "The Spirit of Crazy Horse"

    i just wanted to say that i enjoyed watching the video about the american indians. however; it's also a sad reminder that historically, the indians have always gotten the short end of the stick. rick

    rick -- what would fellman say about this documentary and the plight of Native Americans? Why. what would randall kennedy say? why?

    On Wednesday, October 23, 2002, Tracy Blauser wrote:
    On the documentary, "The Spirit of Crazy Horse"

    After class I remembered a statement from the film on Monday "Indians are just relics to the American people". After thinking about it, it is sad but true I think. Anywhere you go that were Native American homes, it seems to be a marketing ploy. Just look at the Dells. Any store you go on the strip, they sell Indian type jewelry, even headresses for kids. Instead of teaching about the culture, and trying to preserve it, we only look at it as history and novelty.

    [later added] FYI:On October 14th There was a ceremony at the location of the crazy horse memorial for a year of rededication in commemration of the 20th anniversary of the original artist's death. There is a picture of what it will look like when finished at: If you go the main page you can also find out the history of it (it was started in 1948!)

    tracy -- you point out some interesting observations here!

    On Friday, October 25, 2002, Shawna Lehmann wrote:
    On Randall Kennedy's book

    I just wanted to point out on page 216 in kennedy the quote that explains peremptory challenge perfectly explained. maybe you should try to put it up on dear haubermas.

    shawna -- thanks! i'll add this to the lecture commentaries for others to see.

    On Friday, October 25, 2002, Tim Mostowik wrote:
    On the chalk walk

    i thought that the chalk walk thing was pretty cool. it was a good idea to start off the class in a fun way it put me in a good mood for class.

    tim -- i thought it was fun, too. our class drawing was so colorful.

  • On xxxday, September xx, 2002, xxx wrote: